Front end not centering

[oino]

My front end is sitting about a 1/2 more to the passanger side.
The pan hard is already ajusted all the way in.
I was thinking maybe I need to move the pan hard to the drivers side. But I'm not sure.

 

[hubba]

From what i been reading, you might not need it at all. Pull it off and see if it centers up.

 

[oino]

From what i been reading, you might not need it at all. Pull it off and see if it centers up.

wouldn't that cause the front end to move back and forth on the shackles?

 

[putz]

Alot of buckets run without front panhard bar and do just fine.Sometimes it works against the natural spring action built in the front axle. Like if the right tire wants to drop the panhard bar can actually hold back travel depending on installation.

 

[bentbaggerlen]

Just shorten the panhard bar you have. You may have to cut the treading deeper after cutting the bar. But heres a tip... make sure you cut the end with the right hand threads, that way you don't have to order a special LH treaded tap. Don't ask how I know this If you have a chrome front end you will have to do something to protect cut end from rusting.

 

[oino]

Its a spirit frame and front end setup. Is there a reason why it needs to point to the passenger side of the car?

 

[butch27]

Hey: one of our original members had the same problem with his 'Spirit'.??

 

[oino]

Hey: one of our original members had the same problem with his 'Spirit'.??

humm. I'm going to call them tomorrow.

 

[Duke]

humm. I'm going to call them tomorrow.

On Spirit rigs the front and rear rods are different lengths. Check to make sure you haven't switched them.

 

[oino]

Thank you for the help.
I figuered it out. Just me being a dumb ass, Not thinking.

Lets just say a level is a great tool. LOL

 

[Neshkoro]

Anybody have a sketch or photos of a panhard rod on a front axle? I'm thinking that may be the problem with tracking on my bucket. The car feels solid when you push on the tires or body but when you hit a bump it might be a different story.

Thanks

 

[EX JUNK]

Anybody have a sketch or photos of a panhard rod on a front axle? I'm thinking that may be the problem with tracking on my bucket. The car feels solid when you push on the tires or body but when you hit a bump it might be a different story.

Thanks

Here is a photo of my set up. It is short by some standards but I drive on good roads and don't take it off-road. If so, than it should be longer because you would need more suspension travel.

Jim

 

[sstock]

Here is a photo of my set up. It is short by some standards but I drive on good roads and don't take it off-road. If so, than it should be longer because you would need more suspension travel.

Jim

That there is a beautiful thing!

 

[Neshkoro]

Nice photos and a nice car!
It would seem that with your quarter eliptic springs, it would be necessary to have Panhard rod to keep things centered. With a typical transverse spring you would think the spring would become the Panhard rod except if the shackels cause some side movement. I think I will try one and see what happens. If there is no improvement I will just keep it there. If it hurts things, I can remove it!

Thanks.

 

[Lee_in_KC]

Some time back there was a big debate on one of the T forums (could have been this one) about the value of a front panhard. I decided to experiment and took the panhard off of my Spirit front end. There was a slight difference in the feel of the car, especially cornering. Without the panhard, the car didn't feel as "tight" and tended to wander ever so slightly on bumpy roads. It seemed I couldn't carve a turn quite as precisely as with the panhard. I put it back on and the car steers as if on rails... very sports-car-like. I'm a believer in front panhards.

 

[EX JUNK]

Nice photos and a nice car!
It would seem that with your quarter eliptic springs, it would be necessary to have Panhard rod to keep things centered. With a typical transverse spring you would think the spring would become the Panhard rod except if the shackels cause some side movement. I think I will try one and see what happens. If there is no improvement I will just keep it there. If it hurts things, I can remove it!

Thanks.

If you'll notice, my car has cross steering. With that set up a panhard bar is required.

Jim

 

[Neshkoro]

I've tried everything else to correct the wander so what could it hurt to spend some time making the parts and installing it.

 

[GT63]

Some time back there was a big debate on one of the T forums (could have been this one) about the value of a front panhard. I decided to experiment and took the panhard off of my Spirit front end. There was a slight difference in the feel of the car, especially cornering. Without the panhard, the car didn't feel as "tight" and tended to wander ever so slightly on bumpy roads. It seemed I couldn't carve a turn quite as precisely as with the panhard. I put it back on and the car steers as if on rails... very sports-car-like. I'm a believer in front panhards.

HMMM, I have a Spirit chassis and I didn't use the panhard bar. Drives like a sports car, but I'm running a little wider tire on the front than most. What helped mine the most was Toolman's process for squaring up the axles.

 

[TubT]

HMMM, I have a Spirit chassis and I didn't use the panhard bar. Drives like a sports car, but I'm running a little wider tire on the front than most. What helped mine the most was Toolman's process for squaring up the axles.

The Tub T, which has cross steering, is downright scary without a panhard rod or a dead perch. I went with the latter, for a cleaner look, but either one will work.

 

[RPM]

The Tub T, which has cross steering, is downright scary without a panhard rod or a dead perch. I went with the latter, for a cleaner look, but either one will work.

With cross steer you pretty much have to run a panhard bar on the front.