Panhard bar (front)

[Stephen]

Does everyone have one or just some.

 

[Chief-T]

I do not.

 

[lincolnuT]

I don't and I don't think it needs one..............

Mike

 

[WEDRVIT]

I do, cause it keeps the frame from moving sideways on the spring shackes, about 3/4" each way. May not be needed on average driver but at interstate speeds you can feel the difference in lane changes and uneven surfaces in construction zones. I also run a rear stabilizer bar. Harley

 

[adey]

can some one please post some pictures of how they have mounted theres with the spring behing the axle please.

 

[donsrods]

Never have had one and never have needed one either, and I run bias plies exclusively. However, I do run one of the SoCal steering stabilizers on the front of every car we have and it has made a 300% difference in the way they handle. I will never build another car without one. Trust me, it will be the best $39 (painted) or $ 80 (chrome) investment you will make in your car.

Don

 

[EX JUNK]

can some one please post some pictures of how they have mounted theres with the spring behing the axle please.

Since I have a cross steer set up in my car, a Panhard bar is necessary. The picture below shows how I mounted it.

Jim

 

[T-Test]

Since I have a cross steer set up in my car, a Panhard bar is necessary. The picture below shows how I mounted it.

Jim

X2--- Cross steer SHOULD use panhard, traditional alright WITHOUT.

 

[adey]

jim thank you for the photo, gives me something to go with, i do not like the panhard s from the centr spring perch as they look too short.

 

[Rogers23T]

In my opinion if you have the spring behind the axle, and the shock mounts are attched from the frame to the axle, or radius rod bracket there should no reason for a panhard bar. I can see in the pictures priovided by "bpickett" that he needed one to help control the "side to side" movement. I don't plan on using one on mine, and I too am going with the spring behind the axle or "sucide style front end". But I am using an "I" beam axle my design issues are alittle harder than the typical round axle set up.

 

[Youngster]

For those that don't want to run a bar but need lateral control there is the dead perch. The trade off is you will get slightly more suspension travel on the shackle side.

I don't run a panhard unless the customer wants one or if the car has a cross steering.

Ron

 

[Dirt-T]

X2--- Cross steer SHOULD use panhard, traditional alright WITHOUT.

With paraell front springs why a panard bar. It would be hard for that frame/front suspension to go side to side.

 

[EX JUNK]

With paraell front springs why a panard bar. It would be hard for that frame/front suspension to go side to side.

Yes, it would be hard but far from impossible. There is a certain degree of side flex in the rubber bushings that are used in the mounting of the springs.

Jim

 

[Youngster]

With cross steering you can get something akin to bump steer especially when you're turning. The steering box is trying to push the front suspension out from under the car sideways. You need a panhard bar to prevent this.

Ron

 

[EX JUNK]

Ron, you have said it MUCH better than I.

Jim

 

[Neshkoro]

What's a dead perch?

 

[Francis Blake]

Ron I wondered why a cross steer needed a panhard bar. Thanks for the explanation, now I know
( My inexperience is showing again)

 

[Youngster]

The spring attaches directly to the perch. No shackle on that side. This type of suspension control goes back to the days of board and dirt tracks with Model T's flying around them. Worked then and still works today.

Ron

 

[Neshkoro]

So the center of the spring is mounted to the center of the front of the chassis in the normal fashion but there is only one set of shackles on one side of the batwings. The other side is mounted with no shackles?

 

[Youngster]

Yup that's it. I've been looking for a pic but can't seem to find one. Speedway used to sell them but they're not in the new catalog. They aren't hard to make. The thing that's nice about them is you are not adding anything to the front suspension keeping it clearer looking.

Ron