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Mike

Mike

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As if having drones overhead wasn't bad enough, the 6th U.S. Circuit Court for Appeals has given their approval for warrantless and real-time mobile phone tracking.

Time to start leaving that cell phone at home.

The primary reason for the decision is that a criminal cannot rely on expected untrackability. If the authorities can track you with a bloodhound or trace your license tag on your car, then your cell phone's GPS location is fair game.

And for those who are wondering, simply turning off a mobile phone will not kill the phone. You can only accomplish that by removing the battery.
 
The constitution and bill of rights addresses the issue of unreasonable search and seizure not the issue of law enforcement following or tracking a person suspected of some crime. The problem here is that now we face the issue where individuals can be followed to see if they get caught committing some minor offense.
 
Should have seen it coming with OnStar in your new car or truck. It's just another tool to track your every move.
 
Mike said:
As if having drones overhead wasn't bad enough, the 6th U.S. Circuit Court for Appeals has given their approval for warrantless and real-time mobile phone tracking.

Time to start leaving that cell phone at home.

The primary reason for the decision is that a criminal cannot rely on expected untrackability. If the authorities can track you with a bloodhound or trace your license tag on your car, then your cell phone's GPS location is fair game.

And for those who are wondering, simply turning off a mobile phone will not kill the phone. You can only accomplish that by removing the battery.
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Just got a new Droid a few weeks ago and battery is not removable!

On Star, we have that in both our vehicles. I wonder if they can just listen in on what is being said inside the car or truck?
 
They could, but electronic listening requires a judge's permission.

The GPS thing really doesn't bother me. If they wanted to know where I am they can either assign someone to follow me, or just ask my wife. The Patriot act is what I hate, because it removed the judicial system that is supposed to protect us from unneeded or unlawful investigation
 
Ron, yes they can listen in. When my buddy and I picked up our new work truck at the dealers, we were sitting in the parking lot talking. All of a sudden we hear a womans voice telling us how to use our new onstar. It really freaked us out. She was listening to our conversation! BIG BROTHER can listen too then.
 
They not only use cell phones but also credit cards, debit cards and even the Internet to keep tabs on you if they want to. I do not have a cell phone and no plastic cards. I am a cash guy because when I grew up there were no cards and I just got used to paying with money. I guess I am a luddite.
 
I worked with a guy who retired from Military Intelligence, and he worked on satellite spying. He told me their equipment was so good they were able to look down into Times Square from space and actually see the camel on a guys pack of cigarettes. Technology has really made privacy a thing of the past.

Don
 
That old saying 'you can run but you can't hide' is now If I want to see you can't do that anymore.....

ain't Technology Grand..........:cry:

Mike
 
WMG said:
And it gets worse now they want to put black boxes in cars
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They are already in there. It is undecided who owns the information, The car owner, the police, the insurance company or the injured.
 
WMG said:
And it gets worse now they want to put black boxes in cars
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The box is called a EDR (event data recorder), the quickest way to find out if a new car is fitted with an EDR is to check the small print in the owner's manual. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration in America made disclosure compulsory for cars built from late 2010.
 
This is a weird one, and forgive me if I don't have the facts right because I saw it on TV a while back. There was a show on TV that bascially discussed what you had to do if you wanted to disappear from sight. It went into how you would have to stop using credit cards, your phone, all that obvious stuff. BUT, they also said something we don't realize is that some new car tires can be tracked by some signal they put out. I don't know if it is somehow tied into those ones that read low pressure, or what, and I know it sounds crazy, but I kinda remember that.

Don
 
Don, this is some scary stuff. It's kinda funny but years ago the guys at work used to tease me about being paranoid! I used to read up about all this great new tech we have and always said if it can be used for good it can also be used for evil and the guys would laugh and say if your not doing anything wrong don;t worry about it. They don't tease me anymore. Next they will be chipping everyone when your born and you won't even know it. I saw a show on TV that said we have the techo to do that with soldiers on special missions to track them if thay get captured. Sounds kind of far fetched but who knows LOL.
 
This stuff happens when the people do not remain vigilant. Government officials know most people are not watching and paying attention, so they slip their devious legislation through as part of other legislation. Take a look at this government leader's quotes and see if you can identify who said them -

"How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think."

"By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise."

"All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach."

Remember a few months back when we were outraged at Lamar Smith's SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act)? And how we all breathed a sigh of relief when the act died in the House? Well, don't breathe too deeply, because Smith is still at it. He has since introduced IPAA (Intellectual Property Attaché Act), which amounts to governments appointing attachés to patrol the Internet, in order to (and this is the scary part) reduce intellectual property infringement. Or as Mike Masnick of TechDirt put it, we taxpayers would be spending"money to expand the diplomatic corp with a bunch of people whose job it would be to spread Hollywood's special copyright interests around the globe... and to set up a special agency for this in the Commerce Department."

And for any of you who think micro-chipping human beings is OTT, let me ask how many of you have had a hospital stay in the last year? I guess you weren't aware hospitals have been giving patients 'electronic tattoos' for well over year, huh? There are grocery stores with the alleged 'discount/check-cashing cards', that are actually tracking your location throughout the store, every time you enter. They are trying to learn where you spend most of your time, whilst in the store, so they can develop more marketing plans to attract you to other parts of the store. And they've been using that debit card you've been swiping to develop a database on you and your shopping habits.

Have you ever stopped to think about just what kind of data that magnetic strip on your credit and debit cards really has on it? Reports broke, just yesterday, that a Harvard bio-engineer and geneticist managed to cram 5.5 petabits of data into a single gram of DNA. We're talking about a single droplet of DNA that would hold 700 terabytes of data. A Blu-Ray disc can hold about 50 gigabytes, so imagine a gram of DNA holding more data than 14 THOUSAND Blu-Ray discs. We have 1 terabyte hard drives and we think we have a lot of storage. Now, imagine having a 3 terabyte hard drive. That seems gargantuan, but a single gram of DNA can hold 233 times that much data. Now, all of this seems to be a great and wonderful technological break-through, but what happens when Big Brother suddenly realizes it could place cameras to record every square inch of the world and could permanently store each day's data in a few hundred pounds of DNA?

We look at some things and we marvel at how wonderful technology is getting. But we fail to see where that technology might lead. Wow, isn't OnStar neat? Sure, if you want Generous Motors (and Lord knows who else) tracking your every move. Wow, isn't GPS technology in a cell phone great for getting driving directions? Yes, and it also allows Big Brother to see where you've been, where you are now and where you are going. Wow, aren't debit cards handy, so you don't have to carry cash? Sure, but that's only until you realize how big that magnetic strip is and just how much data it might be revealing to every merchant who scans your card.

Don, I don't know if your tires could be tracked, but your driver's license and your registration tags can sure be tracked. Along with your vehicle's VIN. Dropping off the grid means getting rid of everything that has a number attached to your name. How many of you own registered firearms? Gotcha! Heck even your library card has an account number attached to your name.

Oh, yes, were you able to sort out those quotes? Sounds like something you would hear one of today's world leaders say, doesn't it? Actually, Adolf Hitler made those observations.
 
I've always hated that line "If you are doing nothing wrong why should you worry?" Sounds like something the Nazis would have said. What happens though is people get so tired of crime and violence they will do anything to feel safer and if it means giving the Government and Police more leeway they will do it.

If you look at how the laws have changed "in the name of protecting people", like DUI checkpoints (where you are driving along in your car and suddenly you have to explain where you have been and if you have been drinking), or those red light running traffic cameras, you get a glimpse of the future. In both those instances you are presumed guilty and then you have to prove your innocense.

Don
 
I think I have read that the present presidents health care program introduces chip implants into medical patients in the year 2013. I will do some more reading, as Pelosi suggested.
Here is another interesting item. Mike I hope this does not violate any site rules, if so, please edit as necessary.

I thought you would find this technology interesting but darn SCARY!
scary!
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Is this a mosquito?No. It's an insect spy drone for urban areas, already in production, funded by the US Government. It can be remotely controlled and is equipped with a camera and a microphone. It can land on you, and it may have the potential to take a DNA sample or leave RFID tracking nanotechnology on your skin. It can fly through an open window, or it can attach to your clothing until you take it in your home. Given their propensity to request macro-sized drones for surveillance, one is left with little doubt that police and military may look into these gadgets next. And for all you who automatically say "fake" because you don't think your glorious government is funding this... Do some research. Source:http://is.gd/Uy5DJT Actual research paper:http://is.gd/1UcubI Actual footage:http://is.gd/wYN00X Another source:http://is.gd/0sVVAS And another:http://is.gd/u5DC9s
 
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