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Francis Blake

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I am sure any one with a good sized shop has an air supply that goes around the shop. My question is what kind of pipe does everyone use, I have seen some that is very expensive and some that is not so much. My compressor goes only to 115 lbs so I am sure it won't require the best air line available.
 
In the factory we use galvanized water pipe. It will handle a lot more than 115 psi and it's not expensive. For a good manifold feeding 3/8ths air hose, 1/2 pipe is all you need.
 
In the cabinet shop where I worked years ago we used 1/2 pvc pressure water pipe I think it is rated at 300+ lbs pressure. Easy to cut and assemble and there are plenty of adapters to get to the pipe thread of your hose.

Joe
 
I used 3/4 PVC pipe in my cabinet shop for at least 20 years, running at 90 -100 psi. Finally, the State of California came in and told me that the PVC would burst and presumably kill everyone on the planet so I had to re-pipe with copper. That was about $6000 including labor. Next they made me license my air compressor.
 
I was thinking pvc pipe but I wasn't sure, but it looks like the way to go so that's what I will do . Thanks for the responses.
 
I have friends who use pvc in their shop. Also you could use pex. The pex would require crimping tools all available at Home Depot or Lowes.
 
From Parker Tech Center...just a thought and something to consider if using PVC.

PVC piping is relatively inexpensive, easy to install, lightweight, and corrosion resistant. However, PVC has one major drawback, it is brittle. An inadvertent impact could cause the piping to shatter, endangering surrounding personnel. Most PVC pipe manufacturers warn against using PVC for compressed air service due to potential liability from such failures. The Plastic Piping Institute, in their Recommendation B, states that plastic piping used for compressed air transport in above-ground systems should be protected in shatter-proof encasements, unless otherwise recommended by the manufacturer.

Note:
In many states, the Occupational Health and Safety Administration (OSHA) has stepped in and regulated against using brittle plastics such as PVC in these applications, and additional states are following suit.
The strictest standard in the country has been issued by California's OSHA. It includes five tests, as well as a requirement for comprehensive marking of the pipe and fittings. These tests include long-term hydrostatic, short-term burst, and three specialized impact tests -- all to ensure the safety and ductility of the system. The impact tests include striking frozen, pressurized pipe with both blunt and sharp strikers, using various forces, and striking a frozen pipe with a hemispherical striker, using various forces. Manufacturers are required to present the results of these tests for review upon request. When specifying a thermoplastic system, for safety's sake it is important that your supplier meets Cal-OSHA regulations, regardless of the state in which the system will be installed.
 
More info. Make an informed choice and be aware, just because some have never had a problem doesn't mean you won't. Remember, that guy who refused to wear a safety harness and said that he has never fallen off the scaffold in 20 years only got killed the one time he did fall. So think ahead and be safe. Even at home it never hurts to follow OSHA standards for safety. All of their regulations are based on reason.

http://www.exair.com/en-US/Primary Navigation/Knowledge Base/Air Data/Pages/CompressedAirPiping.aspx
 
Glad you posted that info Bill as I was about to post the same. PVC is bad for air, period. There is a PVC made for air, but you will not find it in Home Depot/Lowes.

If this is a permanent shop, use some black pipe, or copper tubing. Good thing about this is you can always add on as you go.

I used 3/4 hydraulic line (which was really really overkill! I could not find any other 3/4 line to use) from the compressor to a 3/4 ball valve, then a small manifold with your regulators and filters add a drop with a clean-out. From here its up to you what you want to do.

I simply ran a soft line from the manifold to a centrally ceiling mounted reel with a 50 ft 3/8 air hose. This has served me for the last 5 or so years. I have since added a 1/2 line off the last filter to allow me a more direct connection for painting.

I thought I had some pics around here, but I cannot seem to find them. I will see if I can get some later.
 
I used copper pipe in my workshop at home and we have galvanized pipe at our repair shop
Both have worked very well
Frank
 
I am confused. You are not suppose to use PVC and I understand it does become brittle and could shatter and injure someone. I am not sure if PEX qualifies I know it will hold over a hundred psi. You are suppose to use black iron but you hook an air line to it that is nothing more than a reinforced rubber hose.
 
I have always used copper. Costs a bit more but do not have issues with becoming brittle and rusting or corrosion issues if there is a bit of water in the system. Use 1/2 inch with 125psi and no problems for 25+ years
 
I used a Rapidair 1/2" tubing kit to plumb my shop. It uses nylon air tubing and push to connect fittings. It goes together quick and seems to be working well. Here is a link to the kit.

http://www.rapidairproducts.com/store/shopexd.asp?id=37

I got mine from Northern Tool cheaper than what is listed on the Rapidair site.

The tubing is pretty stiff when you first open it. I stretched mine out in the sun for a while to straighten it out. As with any push fitting, make sure you cut the tubing square( the kit comes with a tool for that) and seat the tubing fully in the fittings. The O-ring seals can be kind of stiff. I lubed the end of the tubing with a very small amount of silicon O-ring lube and it helped a bunch.

If you have a big truck supply house nearby, you may be able to get nylon air brake line and fittings cheaper. It's available in sizes up to 3/4" and of course it's made for air.
 
The Rapidair looks like a good way to go because it is designed for that application. Probably costs a bit more than PVC but safety is always more important than cost.
 
When I worked at McKinney Corp. Race Cars, Murf had a screw-type air compressor that actually used the supply lines as its storage system. The pump ran continuously, from starting time to quitting time.

One of the machinists was working on a mag throttle pedal assembly for the Joe Gibbs McDonalds dragster and he had let the program run, but saw a place he thought he could touch up, so he was running the tool back in, manually. And it touched one of the clamps and sparked, which was catastrophic, what with all the mag chips in the mill. The mill was immediately an inferno, which caught the plastic covers on fire. And directly above the mill was one of the big PVC air lines, leading away from the compressor. The PVC sagged quite a bit, before it finally got too thin and burst. So we suddenly had a fire that was being fanned by all the air from the compressor. It was blowing flame away from a second level deck, but it was fanning the flames out into the shop, so we couldn't get very close to try to extinguish it.

It was pretty dicey for about 10 - 15 minutes. We were out in the county, with a small volunteer fire department as our only hope. Some guys were on a bucket brigade, whilst the rest of us were frantically trying to move cars out of the fabrication shop. We had stands for the dragster chassis and we had added some longer legs to some of them, because we had run out of room, so we were double-stacking cars, back there. There were either 10 or 12 dragsters and a couple of funny cars back there, at the time, not to mention the stuff that was on the jigs, up in the jig shop. Murf was well-known for being high-strung, whilst at the shop, but he was really in orbit until he was certain the fire was out. :eek:

When the line was replaced, it was replaced with galvanized.
 
Check out TPTools website or catalog for some great info on compressor plumbing. I have heard both sides of the argument on pvc pipe but I know people first hand that have had pvc pipe explode. It shatters into small pieces of shrapnal. Why anyone would risk injury to save a few bucks is beyond me but I think it is flat out stupid. Actually peobably the stupidest hot rod thing I have seen.
 
Truck brake air line and fittings... Of course because I run a truck repair shop I have a lot of this air line, and the fittings. Valvac makes the fittings with a screw eye so they can be anchored to the wall, I think that's who makes the fittings for Rapidair. I just use a bulkhead fitting and drill three holes in a piece of steel to anchor the quick disconects to the wall
 

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