Tie Rod Location?
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donsrods
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The very best situation is to put the arms behind the axle. That being said, a ton of cars (including my old 23) had them in front because there was no room for a tie rod behind. The only thing the car did different from any car I have had with it behind is that the tires scrubbed slightlly when making a sharp turn, like pulling into a parking spot at a mall. Otherwise it tracked fine going down the road and in normal driving.
The fly in the ointment is being able to install a stabilizer. Some people mount one from the middle of the axle out to the tie rod, but I think they look pretty bulky out there. I never could figure out a way to put one on my 23 and I would have loved to have one on it.
Don
The fly in the ointment is being able to install a stabilizer. Some people mount one from the middle of the axle out to the tie rod, but I think they look pretty bulky out there. I never could figure out a way to put one on my 23 and I would have loved to have one on it.
Don
Ackerman is not that big of a deal, to either do or just forget about. If you get the steering a suspension correct you should not need a stabilizer. The tie rod to the rear can sometimes be near impossible to do as there is just no enough room there.
EX JUNK
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Here is a link to understanding Ackerman. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ackermann_steering_geometry
Ron, I agree with what you said about a steering stabilizer.
Jim
Ron, I agree with what you said about a steering stabilizer.
Jim
lincolnuT
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I agree with Ron, on these very light cars Ackermann is just not a deal breaker in where your tie rod is on the car. You may get some sliding when you make hard turns into a parking lot but most of the time with a bucket if it goes down the road straight and without bump steer then that turning into a parking lot is not very critical in my opinion.......now my opinion may not mean much........
Mike
Mike
I'm using spirits steering arms right now. Because I lowered the front end the tie rod rests on the frame. I was thinking of putting spacers in to lower the tie rod or put it out front, or change to these.
If I change to these then I'm going to need a new tie rod with 5/8 ends.
If I change to these then I'm going to need a new tie rod with 5/8 ends.
CARS34PHORD
Member
I cut new arms from 3/8" plate an heli arc them to the 37/41 ford spindles so the tie rod is above the frame will post photo later
donsrods
Member
We originally installed those flat plate steering arms from Speedway on my Son's T bucket but pulled them off and used ones from Chassis Engineering. The reason was, you should see how much those flat steel ones flex when you turn the steering wheel ! 
He had some death wobble issues in the beginning so we were looking at everything on the car, and we were shocked to see how much those arms flex.
Don
He had some death wobble issues in the beginning so we were looking at everything on the car, and we were shocked to see how much those arms flex.Don
CARS34PHORD
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Those arms are similar to the ones we used to make. We build all the arms as a bolt-on style since there are very few people using stock (forged) ford spindles anymore. Please Do Not weld any steering arms to a spindle that you are not certain are forged.
Here are a few photos of our Front End style.
Here are a few photos of our Front End style.
CARS34PHORD
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I used the old ccr plans years ago to do all my flame cutting patterns. I knew your mom an dad. Bought parts from them in the 1970s.I had a street rod shop here in btown. I got tired of all the low ballers here so moved it home went back to teaching adult ed classes. This car is for one of my grandsons. who need a rice burner when your papa builds you a real hot rod
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