Check this out...

[EX JUNK]

Maybe somebody from California can verify if this is fact or not.

HUGE California Traffic Tickets Fines Effective 01/06/2011
 
Please be extremely careful in your driving and car registration &
insurance matters.  State of California is broke and they are trying
hard to squeeze all of us hard to collect money. 
Effective immediately, if you do not stop at the red light, be ready to
pay $436 in fines or if you pass a school bus with flashing red signals,
you will be charged $616.  The state of California is going for blood,
so be extra careful in driving, You cannot afford messing with them.  I
have been hearing that Highway Patrols are under pressure to issue a lot
more tickets than last year with at least 30% increase in fines over
2009, so beware of radar guns, highway and traffic cameras installed
everywhere and the tougher enforcement of parking rules.
Just for your info, the next time you park in the handicapped zone,
even for a minute, you will be looking at almost $ 1000 in parking
tickets , so it'd better be worth it.
 
California needs money, so pay close attention to the rules of the
road!
 
          Traffic Ticket Fines (Effective 01/06/2011)
 
VC 12814.6    $214           Failure to obey license provisions.
 
VC 14600(A)     $214         Failure to notify DMV of address change
within 10 days
Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction.
VC 16028(A)     $796         Failure to provide evidence of financial
responsibility (insurance)
Note: This fine may be reduced with proof of insurance on or after the
violation date..
VC 21453(A)     $436         Failure to stop at a red signal.
VC 22349           $214        Unsafe speed,  1 to 15 miles over the
limit.
 
VC 22350           $328         Unsafe speed, 16 to 25 miles over the
limit.
 
VC 22450           $214         Failure to stop at a stop sign.
 
VC 22454(A)      $616        Passing a school bus with flashing red
signals.
 
VC 23123(A)      $148        Driving while using a wireless phone not
hands free, first offense ..
 
VC 23123(B)      $256        Driving while using a wireless phone not
hands free, each subsequent offense.
 
VC 23123.5        $148        Driving while using a wireless device to
send, read or write text.
 
VC 23124            $148       Minor driving while using a wireless
phone.
 
VC 22500            $976       Parking in a bus loading area.
 
VC 22507(A)       $976       Violation of disabled parking provisions,
first offense.
 
VC 22507(B)     $1876       Violation of disabled parking provisions,
second offense.
 
VC 26708            $178        Unlawful material on vehicle windows.
 
VC 27150            $178        Adequate muffler required.
 
VC 27315            $148        Mandatory use of seat belts.
 
VC 27360            $436        Mandatory use of passenger child
restraints.
Note: This fine may be reduced by completing a court authorized child
seat diversion program .
 
VC 27400            $178        Headsets or Earplugs covering both
ears.
 
VC 27803            $178        Violation of motorcycle safety helmet
requirements.
 
VC 34506            $616        Commercial Driver - Log book violation.
 
VC 4000              $256        No evidence of current registration.
Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction.
VC 4159              $178        Notify DMV of change of address within
10 days.
Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction.
 
VC 5200             $178         Proper display of license plates.
Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction.
 
VC 9400             $178         Commercial weight fees due.
 
 
Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction.  Don‘t
blame the cops. They don’t set the fines or collect them!
**********

Jim

 

[T-Test]

Laws are getting worse for the average people of the U.S. Just think, a little more than a hundred years ago, there was no taxes, everyone had a job, the U.S. was building the interstate highways and our Gov'mt was not broke.

 

[Mike]

Jim, that doesn't surprise me a bit. Most states are bankrupt and simply don't care to admit it. Indiana is working on a bill to deal with 'insolvent' local governments. The press has labeled it a bankruptcy bill, which has some legislators studying at their shoes. But the fact remains that tax revenues are no longer enough to support state-subsidized programs, so something has to give. That something, of course, will be each state's taxpayers. By hook or by crook, the government will get theirs.

If Ron Paul finally manages to bring transparency to the Federal Reserve, we are all in for some eye-opening. Most Americans have no clue what the Fed really is and what it has been up to for the last 98 years. They hear the words Federal reserve and think the Fed is part of our government, when it has no more tie to our government than does Federal Express. Every bank in this country has to undergo audits, yet somehow the Fed is above that process? Gieusabreak! Billions of dollars have gone unaccountable, but every tax-paying citizen of this country is on the hook for every last cent. And we're meant to just look the other way?

Andrew Jackson reined in the Second Bank of the United States in 1836 and if we can finally see the Fed audited, I suspect it won't be long until the American people demand to see it ended as well.

And I better stop typing right now, before I start mentioning all the rotten politics of the last century, that have brought us to where we find ourselves. :rulz:

When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.

 

[Steve R]

Amen

 

[409T]

Maybe somebody from California can verify if this is fact or not.

Jim

Sadly, it's true. The state has a large financial deficit, which of course will be solved by taxing more and spending even more than that.

 

[Ted Brown]

One Reason California is Broke and will Remain Broke- over 522 of these...


LIST OF STATE OF CALIFORNIA AGENCIES:

California Academic Performance Index (API) * California Access for an> Infants and
Mothers * California Acupuncture Board * California Administrative Office
of the Courts * California Adoptions Branch * California African American
Museum * California Agricultural Export Program * California Agricultural
Labor Relations Board * California Agricultural Statistics Service *
California Air Resources Board (CARB) * California Allocation Board *
California Alternative Energy and Advanced Transportation Financing
Authority * California Animal Health and Food Safety Services * California
Anti-Terrorism Information Center * California Apprenticeship Council *
California Arbitration Certification Program * California Architects Board
* California Area VI Developmental Disabilities Board * California Arts
Council * California Asian Pacific Islander Legislative Caucus* California
Assembly Democratic Caucus * California Assembly Republican Caucus *
California Athletic Commission * California Attorney General * California
Bay Conservation and Development Commission * California Bay-Delta
Authority * California Bay-Delta Office * California Biodiversity Council *
California Board for Geologists and Geophysicists * California Board for
Professional Engineers and Land Surveyors * California Board of Accountancy
* California Board of Barbering and Cosmetology * California Board of
Behavioral Sciences * California Board of Chiropractic Examiners *
California Board of Equalization (BOE) * California Board of Forestry and
Fire Protection * California Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind * California
Board of Occupational Therapy * California Board of Optometry * California
Board of Pharmacy * California Board of Podiatric Medicine * California
Board of Prison Terms * California Board of Psychology * California Board
of Registered Nursing * California Board of Trustees * California Board of
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Talking Book Library * California Building Standards Commission *California
Bureau for Private Postsecondary and Vocational Education * California
Bureau of Automotive Repair * California Bureau of Electronic and Appliance
Repair * California Bureau of Home Furnishings and Thermal Insulation *
California Bureau of Naturopathic Medicine * California Bureau of Security
and Investigative Services * California Bureau of State Audits * California
Business Agency * California Business Investment Services (CalBIS)
*California Business Permit Information (CalGOLD) * California Business
Portal * California Business, Transportation and Housing Agency *
California Cal Grants * California CalJOBS * California Cal-Learn Program *
California CalVet Home Loan Program * California Career Resource Network *
California Cemetery
and Funeral Bureau * California Center for Analytical Chemistry *
California Center for Distributed Learning * California Center for Teaching
Careers (Teach California) * California Chancellors Office * California
Charter Schools * California Children and Families Commission * California
Children and Family Services Division * California Citizens Compensation
Commission * California Civil Rights Bureau * California Coastal Commission
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*California Collaborative Projects with UC Davis * California Commission
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Commission on Health and Safety and Workers Compensation * California
Commission on Judicial Performance * California Commission on State
Mandates * California Commission on Status of Women * California Commission
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California Committee on Dental Auxiliaries * California Community Colleges
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Conservation Corps * California Constitution Revision Commission *
California Consumer Hotline * California Consumer Information Center *
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License Board * California Corrections Standards Authority * California
Council for the Humanities * California Council on Criminal Justice *
California Council on Developmental Disabilities * California Court
Reporters Board * California Courts of Appeal * California Crime and Violence
Prevention Center * California Criminal Justice Statistics Center *
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Network Management * California Cultural and Historical Endowment *
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Instructional Leadership Branch * California Data Exchange Center *
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of Alcohol and Drug Programs * California Department of Alcoholic Beverage
Control Appeals Board * California Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control
* California Department of Boating and Waterways (Cal Boating) * California
Department of Child Support Services (CDCSS) * California Department of
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Education * California Department of Fair Employment and Housing *
California Department of Finance * California Department of Financial
Institutions * California Department of Fish and Game * California
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Fire Protection (CDF) * California Department of General Services *
California Department of General Services, Office of State Publishing *
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Housing and Community Development * California Department of Industrial
Relations (DIR) * California Department of Insurance * California
Department of Justice Firearms Division * California Department of Justice
Opinion Unit * California Department of Justice, Consumer Information,
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* California Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) * California Department of
Personnel Administration * California Department of Pesticide Regulation *
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Estate * California Department of Rehabilitation * California Department of
Social Services Adoptions Branch * California Department of Social Services
* California Department of Technology Services Training Center (DTSTC) *
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of Toxic Substances Control * California Department of Transportation
(Caltrans) * California Department of Veterans Affairs (CalVets) * California
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California Division of Occupational Safety and Health (Cal/OSHA) *
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Division of Planning and Local Assistance * California Division of
Recycling

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Architect * California Division of Tourism * California Division of Workers
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California Economic Assistance, Business and Community Resources *
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Development Department (EDD) * California Employment Information State Jobs
* California Employment Training Panel * California Energy Commission *
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California Fire and Resource Assessment Program * California Firearms
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California Foster Youth Help *
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Political Reform Division * California Pollution Control Financing
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Spatial Information Library * California Special Education Division
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California State Children's Trust Fund * California State Compensation
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California State Senate * California State Summer School for Mathematics
and Science (COSMOS) *California State Summer School for the Arts *
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Teachers Retirement System (CalSTRS) * California State Treasurer *
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Project * California State Water Resources Control Board * California Structural
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Superintendent of Public Instruction * California Superior Courts *
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Finance * California Telecommunications Division * California Telephone
Medical Advice Services (TAMS) * California Transportation Commission *
California Travel and Transportation Agency * California Unclaimed Property
Program * California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board * California
Unemployment Insurance Program *California Uniform Construction Cost
Accounting Commission * California Veterans Board * California Veterans
Memorial * California Veterinary Medical Board and Registered Veterinary
Technician Examining Committee * California Veterinary Medical Board *
California Victim Compensation and Government Claims Board * California
Volunteers * California Voter Registration * California Water Commission *
California Water Environment Association (COWPEA) * California Water
Resources Control Board * California Welfare to Work Division * California
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Branch * California Wildlife Conservation Board * California Wildlife
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(CalWORKs) * California Workers Compensation Appeals Board * California
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Board * California Youth Authority (CYA) * Central Valley Flood Protection
Board * Center for California Studies * Colorado River Board of California
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of California (PacAdvantage) * Humboldt State University * Jobs with the
State of California * Judicial Council of California * Learn California*
Library of California * Lieutenant Governors Commission for One California
* Little Hoover Commission (on California State Government Organization and
Economy) * Medical Board of California * Medi-Cal * Osteopathic Medical
Board of California * Physical Therapy Board of California * Regents of the
University of California * San Diego State University * San Francisco State
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* State Bar of California * Supreme Court of California * Teach California
* University of California * University of California, Berkeley *
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California, Los Angeles * University of California, Merced * University of
California, Riverside * University of California, San Diego * University of
California, San Francisco * University of California, Santa Barbara *
University of California, Santa Cruz * Veterans Home of California

This and all the pensions that go along with them!! Any questions????

1/3 of all state taxes collected in 2009 went to the payment of pensions...

Let's just hope the Fed can keep on feeding The Pig!!!

 

[butch27]

That is UNBELIEVABLE. No wonder they are in such a mess. But I imagine all states are like that. Wonder if I can print that out?

 

[Ted Brown]

Just copy and paste it to where you like...

 

[Corley]

Ted,

What? No "Agency for the reformation of old fart Hot Rodders" ? Hey, maybe you are just jealous because you are on the paying end and not on the receiving end of all those state funds...?... And I thought Arny would be the savior...:suicide:

This sucks big time,
Corley

 

[Ted Brown]

Retired Gov, workers get a great amount of income and benefits... Times all those Agencies... daaaaaaaaaa and I thought Arny was going to help also... He can't fight them all... He tried.

 

[TubT]

California has tried for years to balance its budget by fining truckers, assuming that they would pay it and just figure it a business expense (but keep in mind fines are not deductible). We have dealt for years with $1000 fines for exceeding 50 mph averages in our logs and other silliness. The result is that many owner-operators don't go to CA any more, and the companies that do go insist on higher rates and a guaranteed return load. The result? More cost to the consumers in CA.

 

[Ted Brown]

Calif, is not a business friendly State, no way shape or form...

 

[409T]

Calif, is not a business friendly State, no way shape or form...

Depends on the business. If you're an attorney or an insurance company this is the place to be. My workers' comp. for this year nearly doubled, even with no claims, and when I ask my attorney if there is anything that can be done, he charges me $300.00 per hour to tell me tough s**t!!

 

[2old2fast]

I believe this is "loosely" a quote from margret thatcher, Socialism is a wonderful form of gov't, untill you run out of someone else's money. pretty much says it all.


dave

 

[TubT]

Calif, is not a business friendly State, no way shape or form...

Have you seen the new semi-trailers with skirts along the bottom? That is a California requirement. Add in the required retrofitting to 2007 standards (particulate filter, etc.) on any rebuild of a diesel engine made before 2007, plus the upgrading of all refer units to current standards, and you're looking at a transportation disaster in California over the next 3 years.

Add in the easy access to disability, and you have a reluctance of the major truck lines to hire drivers who live in California, so the state is giving away jobs to the surrounding states.

And that's not even discussing the fact that almost all the majors have their drivers fuel up before entering California and NOT fueling in the state unless absolutely necessary, and you have all the inbound trucks burning non-California fuel, thwarting CARB's efforts.

Do you begin to see the pattern here? The only state that trucking companies want to go to less is Oregon, where the fuel tax is the highest in the country, almost 3 times the next highest state.

 

[Gerry]

Not sure if you guys know but we have just had our VAT (sales tax) put up to 20%.Thats 20% on everything you buy except food kids cloths and newspaper. On top of this we have a fuel tax so gas is now around £6.00 per gallon... yep that around $10.00 a gallon.
No idea how much more our governments can take off us but people are getting a little bit 'unhappy' here.
Gerry
In the wonderful 'Old country'

 

[VegasBruce]

California :jester:

 

[Allen]

I might also mention many of the book writers and historians are also from California. Think the Civil War started over slavery? You would be wrong. It started over State's rights and independence. A bit more complicated than that, but you get the drift. Fly a Confederate flag in any major city, and before you pull your truck in the driveway, you'll find your house full of protesters and probably all your windows broke out of your house. Carry a gun in your car, you'll spend 6 years in prison and a fat cat attorney will own your home. Clean a weapon outdoors, and a neighbor sees you from their balcony, you stand a good chance being shot dead. You think the police will ask questions, you're wrong!!

 

[Chief-T]

I might also mention many of the book writers and historians are also from California. Think the Civil War started over slavery? You would be wrong. It started over State's rights and independence. A bit more complicated than that, but you get the drift. Fly a Confederate flag in any major city, and before you pull your truck in the driveway, you'll find your house full of protesters and probably all your windows broke out of your house. Carry a gun in your car, you'll spend 6 years in prison and a fat cat attorney will own your home. Clean a weapon outdoors, and a neighbor sees you from their balcony, you stand a good chance being shot dead. You think the police will ask questions, you're wrong!!

Allen, I don't know where you live, but here in NW Louisiana, we do all those things and no one even gives you a second look,.