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E85/Ethanol based fuel and your T....

Screaming Metal

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Well guys, some of you seem not to have any trouble with this, and some of us do. As time passes, it will eventually bite us.
Filled mine up today, on the way back, all kinds of sputtering was going on.
I have tried 3 diff. filter/ water seperator combos.
This has been a on going thing, and this has taken me about a year to find something that will work.
The last one I installed works great. Its a little expensive on the filter, but I'm only using mine to catch the water.
It pockets the water up into the clear bowl in the bottom, and has a drainplug.
Took me 10 minutes to drain it....
http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=6427#MyReviewHeader
 
That should read 2-3 better on my motorcycle. The gas is 91 octane. The pump gas blend (says up to 10% ethanol) around here is 93. I have put a 1/2 tank in the bucket from time to time because I have 10-1 compression on it. I though I was hearing detonation. When I put the 10% in it went away. Is E85, 85 % Ethanol. I haven't seen any locally .
 
The bottom line is that it takes 30%-plus more E85 to make the same horsepower as gasoline. So there goes any possible money savings in running the stuff. Add that to the small fuel tank sizes in a typical T-Bucket, and you've just reduced your driving radius by nearly one-third.
 
I have a copy of a map I downloaded from --- http://pure-gas.org --- but some of these places aren't kept up, and if they tell you they have ethanol in the fuel, most of them don't have the real gas. I ran down to TX., then ran back....I had about 1/2 a tank of ethanol laced stuff, had to crack the valve to drain it.
Nice thing about the filter, it will hold right at a quart of water....which is alot....and just think, mine (EFI) is setup to burn the mess. Evidently there was alot in the tanks at that station.
But still, theres alot of stations that just aren't labeled at all. Which will make it hard on us down the road....I made a SS holding bracket (bent it up from some SS TIG rods) for the hand held controller up on my dash.
 
Well, I thought I was getting regular fuel.... didn't say anything about how much ethanol was in the mess....
 
Well, I thought I was getting regular fuel.... didn't say anything about how much ethanol was in the mess....
 
Here is a map showing pure gas stations. I think it is spot on here in Breaux Bridge, Louisiana. We have a small time refinery near by and a local Parish (re. county) oil company that supplies a few stations.

Down side, it costs about 10-12 % more. I have a 2007 Suzuki motorcycle that has never had nothing but the gasoline except the few tanks I have bought away from home. It hasn't missed a lick in 78,000 miles.

http://pure-gas.org/extensions/map.html
 
Here is a map showing pure gas stations. I think it is spot on here in Breaux Bridge, Louisiana. We have a small time refinery near by and a local Parish (re. county) oil company that supplies a few stations.

Down side, it costs about 10-12 % more. I have a 2007 Suzuki motorcycle that has never had nothing but the gasoline except the few tanks I have bought away from home. It hasn't missed a lick in 78,000 miles.

http://pure-gas.org/extensions/map.html
Thanks for that link. Unfortunately, it looks like the nearest one to me is about 75 miles away...
 
It may be a pain in the arrs but if you have a local marina (or store close to a lake), most of these carry what's called Rec90 (recreational 90 octain). It will NEVER have ethanol. Around here it is still hard to find E85 (85 percent ethanol), but E10 (10 percent ethanol) is your typical "regular 87". One of The biggest problems is that refined regular for years was 87, but now it's only refined to 84. This way when 10 percent ethanol is added to make E10 it bumps it up to 87 again. We have a few of the Pure stations around here and once had a lot of them, but few people want to pay the price so a majority of them have changed over to other brands. The E10 usually is no problem in our normal cars we drive everyday, it's the sitting up that makes the fuel phase separate, and there is NO good solution to the problem. I've been in tr fuel business for almost 25 years now and
 
Thanks for the info. I always use Sta-bil when I store all my machines for the winter. Does it really help??
 
Looks like I premature posted before I finished! Anyway, yes products like stabil help and Lucas makes a good one also. The best thing for storage for months on end is to run/drain the tank and find you some nonethanol gas AND use stabil. Be sure to run the ethanol completely out of your fuel system. Ethanol dries out seals and builds varnish fast when sitting up. (Horrendous to those little carb holes). If you don't drain it, at a minimum at least run the engine regularly thru the downtime and use a good premium gas for that last tank full. Premium grades have 2-3 times the cleaning agents as regular.
 

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