English Wheel Build

[Chris@whiterhino]

Youngster,

forgive me for asking but what is an eccentric disc? I even googled it and didn't find anything helpful.

 

[der Spieler]

It would be like a cam. The hole would be drilled off center and when it is turned it will tighten or loosen depending on the position of the disk.

 

[Chris@whiterhino]

Ok thats what I thought but I wanted to make sure. Sorry for the noob question hehe.

 

[Youngster]

no need to be sorry ... we're all here to help! this is a very cool project. can't wait to see it in action!

Ron

 

[Chris@whiterhino]

You and me both!! I have a buddy that has a 30 Model A sedan that is in BAD shape and I almost want to start on it first so I can "practice" on his before I do mine haha

 

[LumenAl]

You and me both!! I have a buddy that has a 30 Model A sedan that is in BAD shape and I almost want to start on it first so I can "practice" on his before I do mine haha

:rofl: OK... you're going to fit in just fine!

 

[Chris@whiterhino]

haha well I just finished up drawing up the A Frame Model in CAD. All I need to do now is cut it out on the CNC machine and weld it together. I thought about doing a frame for the T bucket, and I still may because I can make it stiffer. I guess one thing that is cool is I can build just about anything I want, tubular control arms etc. I remember years ago on cool projects like that I would stop because I couldn't build it how I wanted to. Its just kinda cool that how I can so really the sky is my limit.

 

[Chris@whiterhino]

I am a weak weak man....

The one Modeal A frame rails needing to be welded together.

 

[putz]

Jay Leno's Garage - 1927 Cossin/Ford Roadster
Here is a project for you

 

[Chris@whiterhino]

Yea I'll get there one day. Right now I have to get all my online orders done ha! Also all the local orders as well. Lets see I have, 5880 more inches to tig weld!! I love tig welding!

 

[Youngster]

Are you tig welding that Model A frame??

Ron

 

[Chris@whiterhino]

Yes that was the plan. I will most likely MIG the inside braces because it will be hard to TIG them. Everything is at stand still until I get this currect job finished. I normally don't do this kind of work but someone is paying me to TIG weld a much of stainless steel gutters together. Something about they had 4 different "TIG" welders try and it didn't work out for them. They came to my shop with some sample pieces then had to get them X-Rayed.... I guess I passed because now I have 5880 inches to weld! HAHA

 

[Youngster]

that's pretty ambitious to tig all that. i have trouble with warpage tigging that much. i've found setting a .020 gap and skip welding with a mig 1"every 4" to work much better and quicker. less heat and less warpage. What angle are you settin the break in the rail at?

Ron

 

[Chris@whiterhino]

You are right, but most likely what will happen, is I'll tig part of it, 8 hours later I'll see that all I got done is 2 foot, not really being dramatic here, and switch to MIG. I can normally keep warping down pretty good by keeping a constant heat and not doing a lot of stop/starts. The angle you are asking about i assume is where it angles up in the back?

The angle is 3.11 or 176.89 depending on how you look at it.

 

[Youngster]

I layout 1" incruments, them niumber tem 1, 2, 3, and 4. Then weld the #1's starting in the middle and work my way toward the ends like torquing a head, top, top bottom, bottom. Kinda working in a circle. Then the 2's and so foreth.

The angle i was talking about is just in front of the stock center cross member. The rails kick out about 4 degrees here. This is where i make a joint in the side rail. I can get the measurements if you need them.

About 4" forward of the rear cross member i straighten the side rail out so it joins the cross member at a 90 degree angle except if the car is going to run stock bumpers.

Lots to consider. Let me know if i can help.

Ron

 

[Chris@whiterhino]

Oh, I guess you are talking about the if we were looking at it via the Vertical view.