Level engine?
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roadmonster
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Parallel to rear end is much more important than level.
2old2fast
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Engine placement in a build is one of the toughest things to "mock-up " IMHO. Yes , level to the world is O.K. , but how it relates to the frame , body ,& the rest of the driveline is equally important. What point are you at w/ your build? Got your frame? Frt. & Rear suspension ? Body? Tires & wheels ? Let us know where you're at w/ the build , then maybe we can advise. Look at pic's of other T's , what "look" are you going for ? ....
dave
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Hotrod46
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When I built my frame, I added shims under the trans mount so that I had room to lower it or raise it with more shims. This allowed me to fine tune the look after construction.
In my opinion, too much has been made of getting the carb absolutely level. Carbs will work at moderately odd angles. The float level may have to be adjusted, but they will work fine. On a T, getting the exhaust to sit level with the road is more important to my eye. Setting the carb mounts level will make the pipes run downhill to the back of the car with most headers, unless you fab new pipes to fix that.
FWIW, I set my car up with the pipes level and didn't really worry about the intake. I have had no problems doing it this way.
Mike
In my opinion, too much has been made of getting the carb absolutely level. Carbs will work at moderately odd angles. The float level may have to be adjusted, but they will work fine. On a T, getting the exhaust to sit level with the road is more important to my eye. Setting the carb mounts level will make the pipes run downhill to the back of the car with most headers, unless you fab new pipes to fix that.
FWIW, I set my car up with the pipes level and didn't really worry about the intake. I have had no problems doing it this way.
Mike
Hotrod46
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I definitely had to play with the engine angle and rake to get the driveshaft to run at a decent angle. I also had to fab a new trans cover.
Mike
This is my second car. I have every thing on it. But I'm changing the mounts from the old chevy mount to the 55-57 style.
I wanted to raise the engine a 1/2 inch. I raised the trans a 1/2 already. Just pust a 1/2 spacer under the mount.
I don't think I'm going to have a rake. I want my frame level in the front and rear.
I wanted to raise the engine a 1/2 inch. I raised the trans a 1/2 already. Just pust a 1/2 spacer under the mount.
I don't think I'm going to have a rake. I want my frame level in the front and rear.
2old2fast
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So much for speedway . tri-five's never had a mount like that !! Keep in mind that junk's ride sits quite a bit lower in the rear than most.
What angle "to the world" does your frame sit at? I don't think I'd want to be much more than a 2* forward rake w/ the engine. JMO
dave
What angle "to the world" does your frame sit at? I don't think I'd want to be much more than a 2* forward rake w/ the engine. JMO
dave
[quote="EX JUNK, post: 148660, member: 2979" I set my engine up so that the pipes are level with the frame. In over 14K miles I've had no problems. Jim[/quote]
I set my pipes parallel to the ground instead of to the body, and now wish I had done as you did. That looks very clean.
As far as leveling the carb, intake or whatever - I didn't try to make mine level, however even if I had I never seem to be driving or parking on level ground anyway so I guess that would have been a wasted effort on my part.
I set my pipes parallel to the ground instead of to the body, and now wish I had done as you did. That looks very clean.
As far as leveling the carb, intake or whatever - I didn't try to make mine level, however even if I had I never seem to be driving or parking on level ground anyway so I guess that would have been a wasted effort on my part.
Screaming Metal
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Jet me just say I agree with ExJunk, 2old2fast, and 409T. Now on the carb leveling the carb leveling thing, that intake manifold, by design, is designed to have the carb sitting level with the motor mounted in a stock car.
Ever notice that the competition manifolds are milled even with the centerline of the Crankshaft! If you got things where you want it and the exhaust doesn't follow the line of the body and the frame, set a protractor on there and line it up, see what the Angle is.
Take your exhausts off, off to a fab shop that has tubing bender, and right were the 4 head pipes fit inside the collector, heat it there slightly, and break it there. (Breaking as in beading it).
it'll take you longer to pull it off and put it back on than it will be to bend it where it's in line with the frame. Just a thought....
Ever notice that the competition manifolds are milled even with the centerline of the Crankshaft! If you got things where you want it and the exhaust doesn't follow the line of the body and the frame, set a protractor on there and line it up, see what the Angle is.
Take your exhausts off, off to a fab shop that has tubing bender, and right were the 4 head pipes fit inside the collector, heat it there slightly, and break it there. (Breaking as in beading it).
it'll take you longer to pull it off and put it back on than it will be to bend it where it's in line with the frame. Just a thought....
Keeper
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I would love to do this, but I am afraid of screwing up the ceramic coating!
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