Quick steering

[ouh506]

Any one using a quick steering adapter ?

 

[2old2fast]

???????
dave

 

[ouh506]

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...steering.TRS0&_nkw=quick+steering&_sacat=6000

 

[2old2fast]

You've never driven a T ,right? Take my word for it , the last thing you want is "quick steering"
dave

 

[ouh506]

Hi Dave , thanks for the reply.
No , the only T I have been in is my own.
The car has a new, not rebuilt steering box, pitman arm, drag link,and king pins and still has 2"-2 1/2" of slop at the steering wheel.
I was looking to the quick steering adapter to help the issue.

 

[bobs66440]

I would get the slop adjusted out or find out why it has that amount of play, then you will likely not need anything else. There is something wrong. Move the wheel back & forth slightly and follow it down until you see what's moving and what's not.

 

[2old2fast]

there's at least 1 tutorial on adjusting the corvair box on here , I think RPM submitted it ... pay special attention to centering the box... IIRC , one of the big name suppliers had a rash of bad off shore boxes that were junk , hope you don't have one of those !!
dave

 

[Hackerbilt]

Did you center the steering box exactly and then set the front wheels directly ahead BEFORE making the drag link?
Sounds to me like the new steering box is off center when the front wheels are straight.
This centering procedure MUST be done as the off center slop can't be adjusted out of the box.
Steering boxes are designed to have a tight area dead center and this is where the box needs to be when going straight.
The tight spot is there to allow some adjustment as the box wears.
If you adjust out the slop with the box off center you will damage the box when you try to steer past the now too tight area at the center position.
Pictures of your setup would be good.

 

[ouh506]

I am using a Speedway collapsible steering column and was thing there may be some movement at the u-joint. No movement there . Every thing looks good when the box is in the bench vice. Turn the input shaft and the pitmen arm moves with out hesitation going ether way.
So I put it on the mount bolt it on the rag joint and now I have about 1 1/2" slop with the tires off the ground. Lower the car so its on the tires , work the steering wheel back and fourth and it gets loose en-tell its at the 3 1/2 " slop.

 

[2old2fast]

Grasp the pitman arm so you can feel the arm/shaft/box all at once , slowly rock the steering wheel back& forth...you should be able to feel ,better than see if the slop is there or somplace else..
dave

 

[Hackerbilt]

Did you center the steering box exactly and then set the front wheels directly ahead BEFORE making the drag link?
Sounds to me like the new steering box is off center when the front wheels are straight.
This centering procedure MUST be done as the off center slop can't be adjusted out of the box.
Steering boxes are designed to have a tight area dead center and this is where the box needs to be when going straight.
The tight spot is there to allow some adjustment as the box wears.
If you adjust out the slop with the box off center you will damage the box when you try to steer past the now too tight area at the center position.
Pictures of your setup would be good.

Is the box centered when the wheels are straight ahead? It must be.
Also you can only check for slop when the box is centered. BY DESIGN it will have slop off center.
1 1/2" to 3" is excessive but could be a combo of several small areas of looseness.
Still you must start with a centered box and you haven't stated that you are. Having the box centered is the very first step you must make to tighten up the steering.

 

[ouh506]

Yes the box is centered with the wheels pointed straight ahead.
I can not feel any slop with the box in a vice.
Put it on the mount and I can see the movement in the box to the pitmen arm.
It takes the the steering wheel the 1 1/2 -3 " before the drag link moves the wheel.

 

[2old2fast]

If you can't feel any movement at the pitman arm when turning the wheel 3" , then either it's not adjusted correctly or it's excessivley worn or it wasn't machined correctly to begin with...
dave

 

[PotvinGuy]

So I put it on the mount bolt it on the rag joint

Why the rag joint? Would it contribute to slop?

 

[ellis8500]

I had a similar issue after driving for a few hundred miles. Noticed no slop between steering wheel and pitman arm motion. Drag link moved with pitman arm but wheels not moving yet. Determined that the bolt connecting drag link to steering arm was not tight enough. It was pretty tight but not really,really tight. This caused a slight motion of the bolt in it's hole, just enough to add about an inch of travel to the steering wheel. Yet, barely noticeable while watching it.

 

[2old2fast]

Fella that taught me how to do FE alignment said to hold the tie-rod ends while someone moved the wheel , you could feel movement you couldn't see ...
dave

 

[ouh506]

I can remove the rag joint since there is a u-joint about 2" from the box.
ellis8500 , you got me to think about the hole in the arm to the spindle . It's tapered and I have a bolt
in it .

 

[ouh506]

Eureka , went back and started again.
Took the steering box off , made a stand for it and found out I was a little off center.
Put it back in , centered and the tires straight ahead .Maybe a 1/2 " play at the steering wheel.
Thanks for all the input.
Fred

 

[2old2fast]

Glad you got it fixed .......If at first you don't succeed try , try again.... my grandma had a saying for everything

dave

 

[Hackerbilt]

Perfect!