27 T truck build

[RPM]

The 472-500 cad is about 70 lbs. heavier than a SBC , both in stock form ..
dave

That is correct, change out the cast iron intake for an aluminum one and you probably knock 30 lbs off of that.

The big torque numbers down at low RPM is what attracted me. I wanted a highway cruiser, not a red light to red light bandit.
I have a 3:42 rear in it and with an OD trans, if I figured it right it will turn 1800 RPM at 70MPH

 

[2old2fast]

With 500+ lb. ft. of torque I don't think it'll be a slouch outta the hole !!
dave

 

[RPM]

With 500+ lb. ft. of torque I don't think it'll be a slouch outta the hole !!
dave

No not with the low gear ratios.

 

[fletcherson]

The beauty of them is you don't need the high rpm because of the torque, just plan the rearend and tranny around it. We have used them in several low buck builds, the real issue from my perspective is the oil pan sump is wrong for most swaps and requires enginuity.

 

[bamabucket]

You can really feel the torque when you floor it from a standing start. My car reacts to by pulling hard to the right - it scared me the first time I did it and and had to learn to anticipate that. These engines were designed for smooth low RPM operation in cars that probably weighted 5,000 pounds or more. In a light car, you can just image how they pull. I decided to look up accurate weight amounts for a 500 ready to run, and 620 pounds was one reference I found. It is heavier than a small block Chevy as 2old2fast said, but about 70 pounds lighter than a stock big block Chevy. The weights I found were supposed to be for completely stock engines. As Ron mentioned, the stock intake manifold is heavy, and it is also restrictive to good flow because it is dished down from the heads to the carb so it would fit under the hood of the Cadillacs of that era. I have an aluminum Edelbrock manifold that is properly designed - it mounts a spread-bore carb but a square bore cab be easily adapted. There are a few other brands of aluminum intake manifolds available also. Not only is there a weight reduction, but horsepower increase due to better flow characteristics.

 

[Zandoz]

Sounds like a Caddy 500 would be a good a less common cruiser powerplant

 

[c4vette]

Very cool. I like it a lot.

 

[AusBucket]

Lou wrote,
My car reacts to by pulling hard to the right
G'Day Lou, do you have an LSD fitted, non LSD diffs only drive thru the LH wheel, which could account for the pulling right you're experiencing.
Regards,
Mike.

 

[bamabucket]

Mike
I am not running an LSD - a 9" Ford with an offset center section. When car was built (by someone else) I believe they may have narrowed it but not sure. The driveshaft angles slightly to the right so if they narrowed it I guess they didn't try to compensate for the offset. I haven't had any u-joint problems so I am assuming an angled driveshaft may not be much of a concern but could be the reason for the pull. It isn't a problem under normal street driving because I rarely start with much throttle and drive at moderate speeds. This is the only hot rod I have ever owned or driven, so I don't have a basis for comparison to other engine/rear end configurations.

 

[old round fart]

Look for bumpsteer. If you have cross steering and no panhard bar when the front end comes up it turns the wheels.

 

[Spanky]

Look for bumpsteer. If you have cross steering and no panhard bar when the front end comes up it turns the wheels.

I have not found that to be true with my car.

 

[Gerry]

Dont forget torque reaction.....

 

[Pasthisprime]

The truck cab came from Russnomore, they don't make it or the coupe anymore.

They do still make it, I am expecting mine to be here anyday now.

 

[Buffman]

Far out ride!!

 

[RPM]

I hope you are not very tall. I have to set on the floor so my head does not hit the roof. They are chopped way too much. Trying to decide it I want to unchop mine. Sounds like a major deal.

 

[Pasthisprime]

I hope you are not very tall. I have to set on the floor so my head does not hit the roof. They are chopped way too much. Trying to decide it I want to unchop mine. Sounds like a major deal.

I ordered the non channeled version. It will sit on TOP of a Model A frame. I will send pics of me in it and dimensions when it arrives.

 

[409T]

I chopped my '30 3" and channeled it 4". With the seat on the floor I have head room, but have to bend way over the steering wheel to look up and see a traffic light if I am close to the intersection. It looks mean, but really isn't that practical.

 

[Pasthisprime]

I chopped my '30 3" and channeled it 4". With the seat on the floor I have head room, but have to bend way over the steering wheel to look up and see a traffic light if I am close to the intersection. It looks mean, but really isn't that practical.

Yes, i thought about all that. With the chop I definitely didnt want a channeled body even though it looks better. So it will be more of a highboy style which is just fine with me. I wanted something to have a bit of comfort yet still be enclosed. I have had skin cancer twice and cant stand being in the sun in an open car. Plans are for a full AC, heat and defroster combo from Vintage air.