Clutch Pedal ?

[one finger john]

Well I'm putting things together in my head and I would like to know if there are thoughts or plans or anything concerning a dual master cylinder set up for for a manual trans T. This could be either floor pedals or hung from the cowl area. If they were hung from the cowl I 'd imagine I would put in a cross hoop of tubing that would follow the form of the cowl. Speedy Bill has the pedal set ups so what do you think? Go or no go? Or do something like a 200R and stop trying to reinvent the wheel?

John

 

[mr27t]

Well I'm putting things together in my head and I would like to know if there are thoughts or plans or anything concerning a dual master cylinder set up for for a manual trans T. This could be either floor pedals or hung from the cowl area. If they were hung from the cowl I 'd imagine I would put in a cross hoop of tubing that would follow the form of the cowl. Speedy Bill has the pedal set ups so what do you think? Go or no go? Or do something like a 200R and stop trying to reinvent the wheel?

John

I assume your referring to a manual transmission in a T-Bucket. I have a '27 T-Bucket, it's slightly larger in the living area than a '23-'25 T but that is only because of an additional few inches of leg room in the cowl.

When I built my T, I was originally planning on a manual trans but when I started setting things up for it I decided against it and opted for an automatic trans.

The main reason I opted for the automatic trans was because of the limited available space.

I have my T setting somewhat low to the ground and so the engine and trans sets up higher on the chassis and invariably it occupies a bit more of the interior space.

You would not need a dual master cylinder for a hydraulic clutch, but to give more room under the car for both a dual brake master cylinder and a separate single master cylinder, I would use a throw-out bearing slave cylinder (Speedway Motors) instead of an external bell housing slave cylinder.

Speedway Motors has a sideway's mounted and under the cowl swung brake setup that hides the brake master cylinder under the cowl. It would not be to difficult to do the same with a clutch master cylinder.

To hang the hydraulic master cylinders under the cowl, I would do the under cowl hoop support idea.

Just a few thoughts...

 

[der Spieler]

I have been thinking about using a T-5 with the master cylinders mounted under the cowl. The problem is getting to them to add fluid when you need it. The solution is mounting remote reservoirs on the firewall. Not pretty. I don't want to mount both of them under the floor because my exhaust will be going there. My solution there is to run the powerglide I have in the garage. I really did want to run a 5 speed though.

 

[donsrods]

When I started building my 23 the original plan was to use a 3 speed Chevy stick setup. I even had it mocked up that way. However, when I sat in the car I realized there was almost no room for the brake pedal let alone an extra clutch pedal, so I went the 350 route. I do have a stick setup in my 27, but that is on a model a frame and not as low as my 23.

Don

 

[RPM]

We just finished making a dual master cylinder mount, pedal assy. It uses the old style 60 Chevy truck master cylinder. I'll get some pics of it in a little while and post it. It is very simular to the Ansen pedal assy from years ago.

 

[bobscogin]

I originally set my frame up for a TH350 and then decided to install a T-5. I had already fabricated and installed the brake master cylinder on the frame with pedal coming up through the floor like most of us do. Upon consideration of how to fit a clutch pedal coming up through the floor into an impossibly small space, I decided to install the clutch master cylinder / pedal under the dash. I built a bracket from which to swing the pedal, and mounted the clutch master cylinder crossways using a bellcrank.

Bob

 

[Youngster]

i have almost desided to run a swinging pedal in my '27 with the masters mounted so i can access them throughthe old gas door on the cowl. it too is a space issue.

Ron

 

[Ted Brown]

For what it matters, I have mounted about 5 (sticks) that I can remember, and changed everyone back to an AUTO within a year, I tried to tell them them about the cramped space, as one needs to be real comfy to operate a clutch car (both with the feet and then using only one hand to steer, while riding on a rocket. :lol:

 

[Youngster]

good point Ted. same here. i just don't want to run an old ford-a-matic in my '27!! lol

Ron

 

[Ted Brown]

good point Ted. same here. i just don't want to run an old ford-a-matic in my '27!! lol

Ron

With all the real good autos out there, an old Ford-o-mati is out of the question, right? as you can mount any trans to any engine, just re-invent as usual...

 

[Brucer]

i put a clutch pedal in a 92 mustang...

i put a tunnel in the floor pan, and welded an extension onto the clutch fork, with a tab welded onto the extension, and mounted the pedal on that tab, and i put a piece of rubber between the 2 mounting plates for vibration reduction.. the guy liked it.. i seen it in a mustang muscle and fast fords book..

 

[Youngster]

that's true Ted ... maybe just a tad too old fashoned here though. if there's a way, i'll find it. it's a theme thing too.

Ron

 

[EX JUNK]

Check out the latest issue of STREET RODDER (June '09). There is a really neat T featured on page 158 with a standard transmission. There is also a very good shot of his pedal placement.

Jim

P.S. There is also a very nice track T featured on page 144.