Maybe I'm missing something here. The bucket I bought doesn't have an E-brake. I've been concerned trying to figure how best to do one. Then..I realized newer cars don't have em. Only park brakes. AND...fly by wire which kinda scares me ! Quandry !
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More necessary on 'stick-shift' cars. With an automatic, the 'Park' mode on the transmission will suffice, though lots of folks still like to have the e-brake.
Island Girl
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What kind of rear brakes do you have drum or disk . . . drums usually have a stock E brake setup
If you have disk, you can use calipers that has a lever out the rear that actuates it manually, or put a rotor on the driveshaft, (usually at the rear universal) and mount a mechanical caliper for that.
I added the option on my Spirit kit for a Lokar E-brake kit with e-brake compatible rear calipers
We have 3 t-buckets with e-brakes and I don't think any of the brakes have ever been used. All the cars are automatics, we just put them in park. I actually forgot to include one in the Model A that I am currently building and am not going to go back to add one.
Island Girl
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Some jurisdictions will require an E-Brake to pass inspection.
The VI does, so that's why I added it.
The VI does, so that's why I added it.
The car has drums in back and NO hardware for e-brakes. I guess before split brake reservoirs the e-brake was to stop in case of hydraulic failure. That right? Now I suppose it's for parking, if the pawl in the trans is damaged? Just asking cuz I might be missing an important issue...like dual brake reservoirs instead of single. Half the brakes instead of...NONE!
Gerry
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As above, you just got there before me.
E Brake. Emergency brake.
Running a dual circuit brake system gives you a fall back if one circuit stops working. Either RF and LR wheels and vis versa or fronts and rears on separate systems.
If you are running a single master and a mono system the E brakes provides a way of stopping the car. I made a brake disk whch doubles as a pulley for the alternator, mounted between the the drive shaft and diff flange. Its only a go cart calliper but you cant move the car once its applied.
In the UK its mandatory to have a back up brake system.
I'm running a dual system (fronts and rears, due to the imbalance of wheel sizes) but would never think of not having a mechanical back up, just in case. As always JMHO.
E Brake. Emergency brake.
Running a dual circuit brake system gives you a fall back if one circuit stops working. Either RF and LR wheels and vis versa or fronts and rears on separate systems.
If you are running a single master and a mono system the E brakes provides a way of stopping the car. I made a brake disk whch doubles as a pulley for the alternator, mounted between the the drive shaft and diff flange. Its only a go cart calliper but you cant move the car once its applied.
In the UK its mandatory to have a back up brake system.
I'm running a dual system (fronts and rears, due to the imbalance of wheel sizes) but would never think of not having a mechanical back up, just in case. As always JMHO.
fletcherson
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I’m not reccomending it, but as a possible option, I have an old boom wrecker that I use to move stuff around and it has hydraulic line locks, it has a manual cable operated dual valve line lock that locks both sides of the mc. Sort of like skid brakes on dune buggy’s. It holds it rock solid when pulling or dragging stuff with the winch. I also used a standard 12 volt single line lock solenoid on another truck because the e brake cables were ftozen. It works very good but I only use it as a park brake to hold it when loading, etc. I installed one on my t with a momentary button on the shifter to aid in holding the car in traffic, at lights, etc so I don’t have to shuffle between the clutch and brake or heat the clutch up. I’m not sure where to buy the cable actuated line locks, industrial wrecker and heavy equipment supply vendors or maybe eBay. I’m thinking about it for my t because even though I have everything for cable operated e brakes, finding a good spot to mount the brake handle is a real issue.
Sort of like this? https://www.amazon.com/Stopp-Button-Electric-Emergency-Billet/dp/B00QL3JKKQ
tfeverfred
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Did Model T's have emergency or park brakes?
Yes but it does more than just lock the wheels. Here's a video of how it works.
fletcherson
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That’s different, but clever.
Hackerbilt
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I like a good E brake/park brake.
Mine had none when i bought it but I swapped the rear discs for S10 drums to get them. (...and lose the ugly WS6 Disc setup.)
I mounted an import lever handle just to the right of the center mounted shifter. Out of the way and no bother to the passenger unless it was up, and you don't have it on very long once you're in the car anyway.
I wanted it for the obvious emergency brake availability, but also as an additional way to ensure a kid didn't pop the shifter out of park and roll away, and also to give additional security when the car was being worked on while on drive on ramps etc.
I'm just programmed that way now after an aquaintance was killed under his ride while doing some work late at night.
Hit the shift arm and the car unfortunately rolled off his ramps.
No one knows how long he was pinned but apparently it wasn't pretty.
I feel T's are just unsafe as a rule...kind of a given, but theres no need to stack the deck against yourself anyway!
Mine had none when i bought it but I swapped the rear discs for S10 drums to get them. (...and lose the ugly WS6 Disc setup.)
I mounted an import lever handle just to the right of the center mounted shifter. Out of the way and no bother to the passenger unless it was up, and you don't have it on very long once you're in the car anyway.
I wanted it for the obvious emergency brake availability, but also as an additional way to ensure a kid didn't pop the shifter out of park and roll away, and also to give additional security when the car was being worked on while on drive on ramps etc.
I'm just programmed that way now after an aquaintance was killed under his ride while doing some work late at night.
Hit the shift arm and the car unfortunately rolled off his ramps.
No one knows how long he was pinned but apparently it wasn't pretty.
I feel T's are just unsafe as a rule...kind of a given, but theres no need to stack the deck against yourself anyway!
Gerry
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Positioned mine so its down in the bottom of the body, below floor level on the extreme right (left in the USA). When its off the lever is almost out of sight and easy to grab as its along side me. Mind you my body is channelled over the frame rails. Its an after market stainless version for a UK old Mini.
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Nice setup, Gerry! My car is already together so, would be a booger to do. Think! Think! Think! This car is frustrating.
2old2fast
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Get rid of the rusty Chev 'll and get a Volvo lol.
You can get a Factory car E-Brake handle that mounts on top of the floor and bolt it in without much trouble and use universal cables to attach to the rear factory e-brake cables. Mine came out of a Nissan Altima and Help cables and brackets/fittings from Advance Auto.
Haven't pulled my drums yet, been dealing with about a hundred other issues. No lever, bracket, cables, and sure no drum hardware. Nada. Sigh. Gonna end up with a completely different car.
fletcherson
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I had a 67 Catalina roll off ramps and mull me back in the car ramp days... hurt me, I got everything out of the way but my arms... they had rubber encased cross member mounts and one had rusted out. As I was discovering this, I pushed on the crossmember which allowed the park pawl to disengage, the e brakes didn’t hold it. I learned to chock the wheels. Sorry about your friend.
Cheap parts as a kit at Advance Auto. BTDT
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