Snicklefritz
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indeed! i think ron's stock frames are 103" if i recall.
btw can i see a close up of your front shock mounts. i'm intrigued.
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indeed! i think ron's stock frames are 103" if i recall.
btw can i see a close up of your front shock mounts. i'm intrigued.
I purchased them from CCR, and welded them to my Spirit frame . . . the lower mounts are just the typical spring shackle brackets
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Snicklefritz
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thanks folks. i am looking at different types of upper mounts and looking at the ways guys did it back in the day for the lower. i figure shock travel will play a role in what i do as well.
DonnyRay
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Compress your shock all the way. Make a mark. Now , extend your shock all the way. Make another mark. Now make a mark in the middle of those 2 marks. Compress your shock to the middle mark. Mount your shock in that position. Your shock will have the same amount of travel in either direction.
Neshkoro
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That’s the way I did mine. There isn’t much travel in either direction on my bucket. You can tell, at least on the compression stroke. If the front end moves up or down 1 inch that would be a lot. Total travel of the front shock probably is 4-5”. I don’t have to worry about the rear shock travel because there aren’t any. I’m thinking of replacing the leaf spring with coil overs in the back.
Snicklefritz
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thanks a lot folks. seriously, it's stuff like this i have questions about. i see some buckets with real short shocks and other a bit longer. i figured i'd determine appropriate shocks and get/make the mounts i need. some reading i've done suggests that, generally, shocks should be around 5 degrees from vertical or so. does that sound right?
That's a good general rule. I made mine straight up vertical to get the most damping in "jounce" mode, thinking it would make a smoother ride. Can' really say it helped, but . . . I ain't changing it at this point! Anyhow, when I'm driving it, I'm thinking more about acceleration / deceleration than ride quality! (LOL)
old round fart
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All the good riding cars have longer wheelbases. Think limousine. My first bucket had a 144” wheelbase and rode and was the most stable “performance” car I had ever driven. I could start from a dead stop on the mat with both hands off the wheel! Can anybody do that? Hopefully I can duplicate that with my new project. It’s wheelbase will be 155”!
lincolnuT
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I can sure tell the Steel 1927 Cedan was only built on a 98 inch wheel base on some of these New Mexico roads......But having said that, the Indepenent front end and my 15 degrees rear shocks makes for a pretty good ride...I like it.......My 110 inch Yelot rides pretty good but it does so on a Jag rear end...I drive them cause I like 'em not just for the ride....my .02 that proabley not even worth that much......LOL..
MMC757
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Snicklefritz
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thanks for that. i have chassis and race car books but seem to have little luck finding hot rod/t-bucket specific stuff. i realize the basics all apply but i have a number of design questions beyond this. still, i copied this to my file for reference. thanks!
edit: i just remembered... i have this book.
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Snicklefritz
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just to clarify, my goal is to build a car in keeping with many of the mid-60s cars that catch my eye. you'll note i have leaf spring perches so all that "comfy ride" jazz ain't my biggest priority.
safety and looks, in that order.
safety and looks, in that order.
Snicklefritz
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i've begun trying to sift through the threads for relevant stuff. maybe it's just me but finding answers in a forum format seems difficult and i don't want to commit the cardinal sin of asking questions already answered. so i usually don't.
i prefer reading books and talking with experienced folks directly. unfortunately the books i've bought thus far (tony thacker and tex smith) are mostly historical overviews light on technical stuff.
I think you're safe with this group. We're not going to jump on you just because you ask a question that may have already been answered. We've all had to learn along the way, so . . . throw those questions at us! Also, the more you clarify what your vision is, the more we can help.
Snicklefritz
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i appreciate that. i belonged to a classic motorcycle forum and it was pretty darn good. it spoiled me. been in, and lurked among, others not as relaxed. when i have more specific questions i think it will help me in searching here as t-test suggested and will be more productive when i post.
still, it would be nice to find some good books.
old round fart
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If you like videos check out “Tbucketplans.com”. I have been building buckets for 50 years and I rewatch Bob Hamilton’s videos over and over. He also has the books you may like.
Snicklefritz
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a while back i bought the 'street rod 101' three-pack. some good stuff but it's hit and miss in my opinion. the one where he spends the entire video on his specific, disabled-accessable, street rod was a waste of money. i fell alseep part way through it. the fiberglassing videos were more helpful.
i also bought the bundle of t-bucket plans from john. i watched them several times but i might go over them again to see if i missed something that can help me now.
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