DROPPED AXLE

[guilld]

Looking possibly buying a dropped forged axle. Guy says it is a speedway dropped 3 inches 50 1/2 kingpin to kingpin.

I cannot find any axle with those measurements. Would it work on a T being that wide? Axle looks a little weird in the pics, it does not have that difinitive step at the drop. It just sort of looks like a smile?

 

[ruggs]

Looking possibly buying a dropped forged axle. Guy says it is a speedway dropped 3 inches 50 1/2 kingpin to kingpin.

I cannot find any axle with those measurements. Would it work on a T being that wide? Axle looks a little weird in the pics, it does not have that difinitive step at the drop. It just sort of looks like a smile?

If your wanting an I-beam type axle check with Wintec, They are priced well and Jim will have what you need. 50 1/2 seems a bit wide, No it is wide,JMO..........ruggs

 

[Old Rotor Flap]

Oh Boy, I get to wave a flag.

After market I-beam axles - Superbell and Magnum, Speedway are not forged, they are castings.

After market tube axles - Superbell and Magnum, Speedway use a tubular center section welded to cast ends. Guess where the stress is there.

Chassis Engineering West Branch, Iowa offers after market I-beam and tube axles that are forged, not cast. The I- beam is a single forging while their tube axle uses a center tube welded to forged ends.

Anyone selling a cast axle will tell you they've never seen a cast axle break. I tell them I've never seen Tierra del Fuego, but I know it's out there.

May I suggest a tube axle that uses a tube bent to the proper shape with the king pin bosses/tubes welded to this full width steel tube. No cast parts here.

Oh, having described this axle, I think you'll find one of our fine sponsors, RPM sells these types of axles.

 

[benT]

Oh Boy, I get to wave a flag.

After market I-beam axles - Superbell and Magnum, Speedway are not forged, they are castings.

After market tube axles - Superbell and Magnum, Speedway use a tubular center section welded to cast ends. Guess where the stress is there.

Chassis Engineering West Branch, Iowa offers after market I-beam and tube axles that are forged, not cast. The I- beam is a single forging while their tube axle uses a center tube welded to forged ends.

Anyone selling a cast axle will tell you they've never seen a cast axle break. I tell them I've never seen Tierra del Fuego, but I know it's out there.

May I suggest a tube axle that uses a tube bent to the proper shape with the king pin bosses/tubes welded to this full width steel tube. No cast parts here.

Oh, having described this axle, I think you'll find one of our fine sponsors, RPM sells these types of axles.

I agree with ORF on the dropped tube from RPM, but if you are set on an I beam, definitely go with a forged unit. Another option to the Chassis Engineering product is the forged I beams ones from Lucky 7. Summit sells their line: Link to Lucky 7 Axles

 

[ruggs]

This the axle that fits my build, from Wintec.
Plain I-beam features 1" lightening holes, 4" drop, is 46" wide king pin to king pin, 2 1/4" perch boss, uses 29" leaf spring. This axle is manufactured from high strength forged steel, I-Beam axles are designed to accept '37-'48 Ford passenger car spindles.
This is taken from the Wintec website, note that it states "Forged"...........ruggs

 

[Youngster]

This has been hashed out here before. If you insist on a forged axle, then by all means go to CE. Jim Ewing did his homework on the Super Bell axle. They ARE of very high quality casting aloys. When the Stovers bought the rights from Jim's widow, they had the axles cast at the same foundry using the same mat'l. There are litterally thousands of these axles on the road today ( 50 year production run). I would like to see a picture of one that has failed. At that point I will quit sing the praise of this axle.

My 2 cents worth.

Ron

 

[Ted Brown]

All the tube axles I made for the last 20 or so cars are all 54 inch boss to boss, needed to be able to turn real sharp and run a long spring... JMHO again...

 

[ruggs]

This the axle that fits my build, from Wintec.
Plain I-beam features 1" lightening holes, 4" drop, is 46" wide king pin to king pin, 2 1/4" perch boss, uses 29" leaf spring. This axle is manufactured from high strength forged steel, I-Beam axles are designed to accept '37-'48 Ford passenger car spindles.
This is taken from the Wintec website, note that it states "Forged"...........ruggs

Youngster, could I get 2 cents worth on the axle discribed above, preferably via PM or e-mail.....ruggs

 

[Youngster]

Can I make payments??


Ron

 

[ruggs]

Can I make payments??


Ron

I was only looking for a respected opinion, don't mean to impose on anyones time.

 

[Youngster]

No harm, no foul.

Ron

 

[Gerry]

Can I make payments??


Ron

Thats got to be the coolest reply's Ive seen
Gerry

 

[Youngster]

If my menory serves me you are running fenders on your C-cab. Because of that you might have a better turning radius with the 48" axle. Are you able to mock-up your front fenders on the frame now? I would ask if you could exchange one axle for the other if you had to. It would also help if you had your front rims and tires or at least something close. I have seen Model A's with both axles used. The ones with the 48" axle needed the length for fender clearence.

Sorry it took so long to answer your post, I miss read it. Guess you might say that's my 2 cents.

Ron

 

[ruggs]

Guilld,
Have you found any answers about your axle? .....ruggs

 

[Old Rotor Flap]

I think Glen Campbell had a song something about..."by the time I get to Phoenix.....

We're headed to Phoneix tomorrow to visit friends and picj up some helicopter parts I bought.... the pups are at the pet sitters and I miss'em already.

So..... I did a very quick look at the Lucky 7 link regarding axles and I'm not sure I saw the part where they're made in America. Are they?

There are outfits that take original Ford xcles and drop them. The problem I see is they don't tell you whether or not the king pin bores are standard or worn out.

The other trick they use is to say the axles have been Magnafluxed......LOL, what they don't say is wether oor not the axle was found to be cracked or not. Do you understand that point Paris? Magnafluxed...... sure, but it is cracked.

Darn the phone again.

 

[guilld]

I will probably let the axle slide. It just does not look right.

Here is my plan. I have a spred sheet with all the parts needed for a T track roadster and the prices. So I am looking for any parts less than the part new. I bought a mustang radiator (new) for $70 and a reversed covarir box for $200.

So I am working my way towards a roadster. I would probably just buy the parts and get going. BUT!! My son and I built a 32 coupe (which is in the garage) and I bought a 50 Stude for him to drive while we were working on the 32 (in the garage) and I bought my wife a 2004 BMW Z4 a few years back (which is in the garage) and I have a sporty on a rigid frame unfinished (which is in the garage).

Get the picture. I cannot have any more toys until I get rid of some (Sportster rigid first) and then maybe I will build a roadster. I love driving the 32 but really want a track T. I always seem to gravitate to the more impractical of whatever. Back in the day built several "LONG" wheelbase choppers which are not as practical as a stock bike.

Anyhow I have my eyes open for deals.