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Thanks for the procedure on those mounts Ron, sounds a little easier and makes more sense now.

Good point on taking a break after some good welds. Now that I think back when we welded continuously at night school, I found good welds to begin with and then things started to deteriorate not too long after.

Craig
 
thanks for the help Ron. My past experience has been in restoring muscle cars. I run a tool & die shop, and it has allways been my desire to build a car from scratch. your plans have really helped me to figure some things out. at this stage i am still collecting parts and trying to decide what look i want.
Bill
 
Bill, Having a plan is the first step in building one of these great little cars. Although this frame is pretty much universal, it's still a very good idea to have the part listed in the second paragraph on page #1 of the plans. The more you have on hand before the build starts, the easier your car will go together. I welcome questions, so don't be shy about asking them. I want to see you succeed almost as much as you do.

Ron
 
Youngster,
Thanks for the plans and willingness to give advice. What brand body (if any in particular) did you base this on. I was thinking of stretching mine (I'm 6' 4") and was trying to decide how much I would need to stretch the frame also.

Thanks again
Wayne
 
First off, welcome to the site! If you're thinking about building a T, you've come to the right place. There's a lot of knowledge here for you to farm.

This frame will work with any body that has the stock T dimensions. There is 45" figured in the front rails for the body. If you are stretching the body, say 4", just add 4" to the length of these rails.

If you have any more questions, please don't be afraid to post them here. You will get your answer and everyone benifits from it.

Ron
 
Great plans! Thanks.
Question; I'm just getting into the planning stage of my project, got the drivetrain and nothing else. I want to do a 27 roadster. Poking around the net looking at prefab chassis it seems there are some demensional differences between the '23 and '27. I was wondering if these plans can be adjusted to accomodate the roadster body? Is the difference is just in the wheelbase or are there other differences between the frames?
Thanks in advance. I'm new to this so forgive me if these are silly questions.
Todd
 
I'm using one under my '27 modifed. You can figure the new length for the rear rails by mocking up you body and placing a wheel where the fender flare is on the turtle deck. At the same time you can see how much kick you want by setting the body at ride heigth. On guy told me he used 2x4's to build a mock frame to get these measurements.

Ron
 
Using 2 x 4's to mock up a frame works great. I had never built a frame before and that is how I started my build. I also made plywood cutouts of the diameter tires that I intended to use and placed them in the position where I thought they looked best. With that done, I stood back and was able to check the profile to see if it sat the way I envisioned it in my mind.

By taking the time to do these little "crude" steps, you can avoid some expensive mistakes when you start with the steel. Buying steel tubing is getting more and more expensive every day.
 
The balance or look of these cars is so important. All it takes is for one component to be an inch out of place, and your whole car looks unplanned. This is the reason Total, Spirit and others with the look are so popular. They did their homework at the beginning, not after they had units out in the market. If you want to get a feel for this, go to e-bay or any picture site and study what looks good and what dosen't. Better yet, with summer here, there will be alot of shows and runs. Nothing can replace looking at a great example close up. Don't be shy about asking questions. You will find most all bucket heads want you to get one on the road too. Very friendly and helpfull guys.

Ron
 
Ron I have downloaded your plans My question is why do you use round tubing on front cross member. THANKS in advance for your help. I am in the early planing stages and your help is really appreciated.:) I have been going to car shows as you suggested . It is helpful when planning to see and evaluate finished products.The craftmanship on some of the T's I have seen is unbelievable.
 
The round cross member goes well with the tube axle, tie rod, and drag link. Most everything in your front suspension has some kind of roundness to it. If you have anymore questions, don't be afraid to ask.

Ron
 
What ever came of the CAD drawings? Did I miss something somewhere?
The community college here is setting up a CNC Plasma cutter and I think something like this would be a good test.
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This is my fault. I have my brothers cad drawings on a cd but don't know how to integrate them into the pdf. I only know enough about this computer to get myself in trouble accidentally. That would be a suicidal attempt at best. If someone is willing to take on this project, let me know.

Ron
 
Ron.............Here's a link to a DWG to PDF converter for converting AutoCad files. They have a free download for a trial version. It should give you about 20 conversions before the trial times out. It's a 4.4mb executable file and is easy to setup. I downloaded their PDF to DWG converter and it's pretty slick......Steve

DWG to PDF Converter, AutoCAD to PDF Converter

P.S. If faceplant wants to use the plans for a CNC plasma cutter I would just email him the files you have on CD. He would have to convert them back from PDF to DWG to use them if he had the PDF files.
 
Say what?? :confused::wall::eek::D

Ron
 
I don't think there's a big demand for CAD drawings as access to a multi-thousand dollar piece of equipment can be limited. I've taken a class in AutoCAD so I can probably fumble my way through. However, knowing almost nothing about a CNC Plamsa cutter, I don't know if I need to adjust for kerf width or anything of that nature.

I'll putz with it later.
thanks.
 
Ron I am ready for those files. Think you could get your brother to email me them in a DXF format? You can have the first set on the house. The CNC Plasma awaits.

I could sit here and redraw them all in CAD but if he has them, the finished parts are just a few mouse clicks away.
 
Youngster said:
This is my fault. I have my brothers cad drawings on a cd but don't know how to integrate them into the pdf. I only know enough about this computer to get myself in trouble accidentally. That would be a suicidal attempt at best. If someone is willing to take on this project, let me know.

Ron
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Ron,

Email me the files... I can create the plans on PDFs for you as well as DXF for RPM... xxxathomas@seattlelighting.comxxx

without the xxx
 
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