Non T, but Straight axle questions for GB

[GAB]

T-Odd

Here is what I've been thinking about. Like I said though, it would depend on whether the rest of the pieces are what you want to use. This would be a 3 piece weldment. The dimensions are such that it would fit a early Ford axle and use that kingpin set.

Maybe some food for thought?

 

[T-Odd]

George... PHENOMENAL.

Wonder how much it would cost to manufacture vs the cost for standard Early Ford spindles though?

My first thought was to try to make the early Ford spindles work with the VW hubs but THIS might be the answer. If the VW type 1 stuff will work on the spindle you have o nthe trailer then this might be exactly what the volksrodders need.

I'll post it over there and see what they say.

Thanks again.

 

[Youngster]

Just a though there. Keep in mind, I'm not familuar with the VW spindles, but is there any chance of turning the Ford spindle down to the VW specs? Or maybe facing the Ford spindle and drilling the VW rear axle bolt pattern into the Ford flange?

Ron

 

[T-Odd]

Youngster "... is there any chance of turning the Ford spindle down to the VW specs? Or maybe facing the Ford spindle and drilling the VW rear axle bolt pattern into the Ford flange?"

That was the first thing I though, turn down the for spindle but I don't know how much it needs to be turned down if it does at all.

The other thing I thought when George showed me that flat spindle was Franz's "DEATH" volksrod - the build thread is here - http://www.kustomcoachwerks.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1463

His front end was a flipped VW beam, the trailing arms pointing forward instead of trailing behind the torsion bars. He cut the spindles and rewelded them to get the car lower.

The Kustom Coach Werks website just died on me about page 20 into the build thread when I was looking for this pics of his spindle surgery.

I'm not sure if that procedure is safe of not though. I'd trust someone like George's opinion on it though.

 

[T-Odd]

George, I found a big pic of a VW kingpin spindle. Still looking for a good pic of the Ball Joint spindle.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d117/down2earths10/2007_1124Image0001.jpg

 

[T-Odd]

Here's the 2" drop spindles for kingpin and then the Ball Joint spindles.

http://www.concept1.ca/AIR COOLED FOLDER/22-2858 Drop Spindles LP 600w.jpg

http://www.concept1.ca/AIR COOLED FOLDER/22-2859 Drop Spindles BJ 600w.jpg

I'll get some pics this weekend of my Ball Joint front end and post those.

 

[T-Odd]

Here are a few pics but I can't find the exact ones I remember seeing. He sliced off a Ford spindle and welded it to a piece of a VW spindle. Using the VW beam and Ford spindles, pretty much the exact opposite of what we're talking about here though.... VW Spindles on Ford axles.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a320/volksbash/CIMG0756.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a320/volksbash/CIMG0743.jpg

http://www.kustomcoachwerks.com/avatars/DSCF5131.JPG

http://www.kustomcoachwerks.com/avatars/DSCF5122.JPG

http://www.kustomcoachwerks.com/avatars/DSCF5123.JPG

 

[T-Odd]

Alright, now I found a website with pics of VW spindles. We have early 911, we have Type II, we have type 1, etc.

What I found interesting is how they are displayed, my mind is a-workin' now... imagining these on a straight axle. OH BOY!

Franklin's Version 3.0 - Bug & Bus Drop Spindles

Looks like the easy way to go on this is to use Type 2 spindles.

Take a look at this and tell me what you think George.

slambulance - Dropped spindles splitscreen bus

 

[GAB]

T-Odd

It looks to me like these spindles might be modified to work on a solid axle setup. That's assuming that they are dimensionally compatible. If you were going to make a tube axle anyway, the kingpin angle would not be a problem. And it looks like you would have to make some bushings for the kingpins, so just make them to fit the early Ford pin set. It appears that the pivot lugs are parallel and probably machined flat. The Porsche brakes fitting the spindles takes care of one of your desires, what about the wheels? I guess that a caliper mount would have to still be made. An axle might have to have a little more drop to it than normal as the spindle portion sets a little low in relation to the lugs.

This is the most appealing setup that I have seen so far. But that is just my opinion...and we know what opinions are like! :lol:

I wonder if we are going to get in trouble with this discussion as it has gotten kind of off track from Buckets?

 

[flatheadgary]

hi guys! on the vw forum a guy made an axle using vw spindles. here is the post. it is down the page a bit and it's white.
Has anyone ever made their own drop axle? - The Volksrodders Forum